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|UnusedColossus = [[File:Phoenix.jpg|291px]]|Resemblance = }}[[Phoenix]] (or Adar Flam, the name given to it by fans) is one of several [[Unused Colossi|unused colossi]] that did not make it into the final version of ''[[Shadow of the Colossus]]''.
   
 
==Strategy==
[[File:Phoenix.jpg|thumb|284px|Adar Flam spreading its wings.]][[Adar Flam]] is one of several [[Unused Colossi|unused colossi]] that did not make it into the final version of [[Shadow of the Colossus]]. Its name is one given by fans, as the designers just called it 'Phoenix'. [http://www.glitterberri.com/shadow-of-the-colossus/artbook/unused-colossi-in-action/ The translation of the artbook] does constantly call it Ph'''eo'''nix, but that is very likely a typographical error.
 
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[[Shadow of the Colossus official artbook and guidebook|The guidebook]] gives information on how Phoenix had to be defeated: ''"[http://www.glitterberri.com/content/ico_series/sotc/artbook/196.jpg Its body was wreathed in flame. You defeated it by plunging it into a lake]"''. This indicates that [[Wander]] was not able to climb its body straight away. In all released screenshots of Phoenix, Wander is seen riding [[Agro]], so it can be assumed she was vital to this battle.
   
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==Rumors==
It is rumored that it was scrapped for two reasons. The first reason being that the arena for this battle was much larger than what they wanted to use. And secondly, Adar Flam was overpowered and the designers had a lot of trouble making the fight balanced. Both these claims, however, are uncorfirmed.
 
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According to an old [[Team Ico]] Gamers Blog post, Phoenix was removed for being overpowered and also because it required a huge arena due to its attacks. [http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/19/shadow-of-the-colossus-unused-colossi/] (This would later be confirmed by an interview with Fumito Ueda conducted by French gaming magazine Chronic'art.)
==The Flame Bird==
 
 
The words "Adar" and "F(f)lam" are Welsh and translate to "bird" and "flame", respectively. For this reason the colossus is often referred to as The Flame Bird by fans. The reason for this nickname is related to the following quote from [[Shadow of the Colossus official artbook and guidebook|the artbook]]; 'Its body was wreathed in flame. You defeated it by plunging it into a lake'.
 
==Strategy==
 
As stated above Adar Flam had to be defeated by plunging it into a lake, as its body was wreathed in flame. This indicates that [[Wander]] was not able to climb its body straight away.
 
   
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There are two proposed locations for this [[The Colossi|colossus']] original location; the first at D3 on the map, where the same trees seen in several of the beta screenshots can still be found in the released version of the game. The second is at quadrant I4; where matching texture and data evidence also suggests the colossus once dwelled. [http://spaceomega5000.blogspot.com/2018/03/theory-phoenix-was-at-i4.html]
Not much more is known, but it is speculated that it was too heavy to fly and instead used its wings to flap and create windbursts. These would send you flying back and, therefore, one of the fight's main obstacles was to reach the colossus. Interestingly, in all released screenshots of Adar Flam, Wander is riding [[Agro]].
 
   
==Appearance==
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==Gallery==
 
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Adar Flam looks like a huge bird with glowing wings that are as if on fire. Based on the images, it can be assumed it's around fifty-five to sixty feet tall with carved stone eyes. It has a very long neck, which resembles that of an ostrich.
 
 
Phoenix2.jpg|Another screenshot of Phoenix.
 
Phoenix3.jpg|An earlier image of Wander and Agro near Phoenix. Note its longer, ostrich-like neck.
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ImagesCAKOML2C.jpg|Another image of Phoenix in which it appears to be glowing.
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French+article+translated 800.jpg|Chronic'art French interview with Fumito Ueda (translated). Source of prior image.
   
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Phoenix2.jpg|Another screenshot of Adar Flam.
 
Phoenix3.jpg|Wander and Agro near Adar Flam. Note its long ostrich-like neck.
 
 
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</gallery>
   

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Phoenix (or Adar Flam, the name given to it by fans) is one of several unused colossi that did not make it into the final version of Shadow of the Colossus.

Strategy

The guidebook gives information on how Phoenix had to be defeated: "Its body was wreathed in flame. You defeated it by plunging it into a lake". This indicates that Wander was not able to climb its body straight away. In all released screenshots of Phoenix, Wander is seen riding Agro, so it can be assumed she was vital to this battle.

Rumors

According to an old Team Ico Gamers Blog post, Phoenix was removed for being overpowered and also because it required a huge arena due to its attacks. [1] (This would later be confirmed by an interview with Fumito Ueda conducted by French gaming magazine Chronic'art.)

There are two proposed locations for this colossus' original location; the first at D3 on the map, where the same trees seen in several of the beta screenshots can still be found in the released version of the game. The second is at quadrant I4; where matching texture and data evidence also suggests the colossus once dwelled. [2]

Gallery

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The Game Shadow of the Colossus ( Demo  · Pal Release  · Shadow of the Colossus HD  · PS4)
Characters Wander  · Agro  · Mono  · Dormin  · Lord Emon  · Guards  · Shadows
The Colossi I  · II  · III  · IV  · V · VI  · VII  · VIII  · IX  · X  · XI  · XII  · XIII  · XIV  · XV  · XVI
Unused Colossi ( Devil  · Evis  · Griffin  · Phoenix  · Roc  · Saru  · Sirius  · Spider  · Worm  · Yamori A  · Buffalo  · Quetzalcoatl)
Magic Sigil  · Hard Mode
Colossus Arenas Temple  · Proto  · Arena  · Kirin's Hill  · Canyon · Canossa  · Lakeside  · Underground  · Geyser  · Gravewind  · Leo's Cave  · Poseidon's Lake  · Desert  · Ruins  · Parthenon  · Sanctuary
Unused Arenas ( Badlands  · Cave  · Crater  · Devil's Plain  · Dune  · Hillock  · I1  · Labyrinth  · Sluice  · Stonehenge  · Valley )
The Forbidden Lands Shadow creaturesSave shrinesFruit treesWhite-tailed lizards

The Shrine of Worship
Umbral GladeStone Arch GorgeDried MarshNorthern SpanDesert FortressMisty FallsRavine EntranceHalf-moon CanyonWestern PlainRound Stone HillLair to the WestStone Bridge CliffCliff PathLair on the MesaWestern CapeArch Bridge PlainBlasted LandsAutumn ForestEastern BluffValley PlainSouthwestern CapeSouthern PlainGreen CapeThe Broken Seal

Soundtrack Roar of the Earth
Walkthrough Time AttackGolden Coins
Other media Nico  · Official artbook/guidebook  · Collectible figurines  · Film adaptation
Giantology campaign
Hoaxes Jebal-Barez skeletonTamil Nadu tsunami giantSulu Sea eel statuePolarneft conspiracySayre family vacation
Characters Eric BelsonCasper ShillingEd GuylerArkady SimkinBoris AtlasovAndrew and Ellie Sayre
Media Giantology podcasts (FirstInterview with Arkady SimkinThirdFourth) • IPICP memo